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willyz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: The Drum-God Essential Recordings Thread Reply with quote

Alright, so I need some new music and I figured, I don't have that much stuff with most of my drum-heros on it. So what are the essential albums with Vinnie, Gadd, Weckl, Dennis, Buddy, etc, etc?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A VERY small desert island list Happy ...

Allan Holdsworth: Secrets
Frank Zappa: Joe's Garage
Gino Vanelli: The Nightwalker
Chick Corea: The Elektric Band
Steve Kahn: Public Access
John Scofield: Blue Matter
Buddy Rich: The New One!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I will stick my neck out and select a Dave Weckl must-have list for you:

Bill Connors: Step It
Chick Corea Elektric Band
Chick Corea Elektric Band: Eye of the Beholder
Dave Weckl: Master Plan
Dave Grusin Presents: GRP All-Star Big Band LIVE!
Mike Stern: Upside Downside
Michel Camilo: On Fire
Michel Camilo: Rendezvous


I hope this helps
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice thread! Cool

Some that come to mind:

Sting - Ten Summoners Tales
Karizma - Document
Jing Chi - Jing Chi, 3D
Chick Corea - My Spanish heart, Friends, Leprechaun
Chick Corea - Eye of the Beholder
CAB - CAB2
Buddy Rich - Swinging New Big band + Mercy,Mercy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Scott and the LA Express, Tom Cat: John Guerin

Great 70's style groove playing...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

benrand wrote:
Tom Scott and the LA Express, Tom Cat: John Guerin

Great 70's style groove playing...


Hey Benrand! Right on! I digg Guerin and the LA Express on Joni's Miles of Aisles as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I actually have all the Chick stuff, which is great!

Keep it comming, guys!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff Hamilton Trio - Live
Jeff Hamilton Trio - Hamilton House: Live at Steamers
Diana Krall - Live in Paris (yep, you guessed it, Jeff Hamilton)
John Scofield - Enroute (Bill Stewart)
Stanton Moore - Flyin' the Koop
Weather Report - Night Passage (Peter Erskine)
Abercrombie/Johnson/Erskine - Live
Marc Johnson - Bass Desires (Peter Erskine)
Steps Ahead - Modern Times (Peter Erskine)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the guys you mentioned, I would probably select:

THE VINNIE PREMIUM FILES

John Patitucci's self-titled debut

In fact, the first three Patitucci releases feature Weckl and Vinnie revealing their fusion chops, particularly Sketches, which has the track Scophiles. Vinnie plays so over the top on that one, I think it officially qualifies as drum pornography. My personal favorite track is Baio, Baio on the first release. Chick Corea on keyboards and Vinnie play a very passionate songo-style thang. As a leader, I think Patitucci is a much better writer and performer on the upright. He's a gifted upright player.

Karizma - Document

THE WECKL PREMIUM FILES

Michel Camilo - On Fire and Rendezvous have a lot of good Weckl stuff

Jeff Beal - Three Graces has Vinnie on it, but it's probably some of the tastiest, most subtle Weckl playing I've been privy to.

Mike Stern - Play. Again, I like it when Weckl is a guest and not a featured player or leader. With a talent like Stern to feed off of, Weckl is allowed to use his considerable talents to really make music rather than trying to blow from the first downbeat to the last.

THE GADD PREMIUM FILES

Chick Corea - The Leprechaun. The essential Gadd. He did some other fine work with CC, but this one is just freaky good, even if that mini-Moog is three times as irritating now as it was in 1975.

The Gadd Gang - Best recordings to capture his sound and the whole band has major junk in the trunk. Deep, deep pocket.

THE BUDDY PREMIUM FILES

You have to have West Side Story somewhere in your collection if you can honestly call yourself a drummer. He absolutely swing his butt off.

The Best of Buddy has Channel 1 Suite, and I don't really know what original recording that was on, but it's classic Buddy.

My favorite Buddy recording was Hawaiian War Chant with the Tommy Dorsey Band, but I only have a compilation disc.

DENNIS CHAMBERS

Definitely get all his stuff with Scofield on the Grammavision label. I think there were two studio releases -- Blue Matter & Loud Jazz -- and a live album (Pick Hits Live?). They're all over the top, excessively busy 80s jazz funk, but with the verve of a modern jazz icon like Scofield.

My favorite anything with Dennis Chambers on it is the Return of the Brecker Brothers DVD. Dennis is very good on that, but I'm probably more dazzled by Mike Stern. His solo on Song for Barry is my all-time favorite guitar solo. The band kills on this song at the end, so much better seeing the live version than buying the CD of the same name.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal picks would be...

Vinnie:
Greg Mathieson - Live at the Baked Potato
Karizma - Document
Randy Waldman - Wigged Out and Unree

Buddy:
Big Swing Face and Swinging New Big Band

Gadd:
Chick Corea - Three Quartets and The Leprechaun
Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones and Pirates

Dennis:
Bill Evans - Petite Blonde
John Scofield - Pick Hits Live


Weckl: Is this a good time to come out of the closet and admit that I don't own any CDs with Weckl on?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

David Francis wrote:

Weckl: Is this a good time to come out of the closet and admit that I don't own any CDs with Weckl on?


it's ok david....as was said above, i prefer weckl when he's playing someone else's music. his solo records no doubt have some fine drumming, but i swear you could put on one of weckls solo cd's and roll an old video of the tv show 'chips' and his music fits right in :shock:
"hey ponch, the bad guy's getting away! let's get'm!" :grin:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AAHHH yes, the infamous essential listening or desert isle list 'discussion!' Always good fer a good HOD spout...& one that happens every Drummin' leap year, when the stars are aligned, Jupiter is w Mars Music [bankrupt], the moon is just right, the Tide is High [& we're Number One] & all the cosmos are N Sink...! /;-p

Off da top o me pee-pickin' head:

Sco - Loud Jazz is another [besides the greats Blue Mat & Pick Hits Live Tokyo] that has some absolutely groovin' & slammin' Dennis.
Also, Uncle Mo's Space Ranch. A little freaky, but it has Den & a little Virg.
Tom Coster's From the Streets is some sweet DC too.

I think he meant Tooch's "Sketchbook," w VC awa ersk, terri lynne, & acuna...yep, the tunes Change of Seasons & Growing off JP's 1st is killin' Vinne...

Zappa - Shut Up n Play Yer Guitar, Joe's Garage, Tinseltown Rebellion.

Ditto on GVanelli's Nightwalker [VC], i'll also add GV's: Brother to Brother [Craney], & Live Montreal [Enzo Muffugg'n ToDESco]. Pauper in Paradise has Scheuerell...JLPonty Live '79 also some killin' Casey.

JLP again: Fables & Mystical Adventures w Rayford, & Tchokola & No Absolute Time w Wassy & Samba...

YESSIREE BOB...any Miles w TONY, AWA Tony's Believe It...I hear Million Dollar Legs is good too, altho, [*shiver*] Ive never heard it!...[ducks & runs fer cover amidst a hail of 2B's]...

Stern - Between the Lines has a great "supporting" Weckl, & an absolutely BRILLIANT [re: Ho Lee Shed!] dr solo over the outro-vamp in "You Never Know"...

Pat Metheny - Travels - essential Gottlieb!!

Chick's My Spanish Heart & Mad Hatter [in addition to Leprechaun & 3 Quartets] has some killin' GADDILLAC / GADZILLA.
CC Akoustic Bd Live '86 Munich DVD is ESSENTIAL SCARY WECKENSTEIN MONSTA' [awa Chick n Tooch!]!!!!

essential NOVAK: Chick's Elektric Band 2 - Paint the World!! Time Warp; also Bob Berg's Another Standard; Allan's 16 Men of Tain [& various & sundry scaaaaary live tour boot mp3s & vids, where GN's giving da Vinster a run fo da $$]...

Allan's Live Galaxy Theatre 2000 Cosa Mesa CA vid w Joel Taylor

UK - Danger Money - essential Bozzio!

Simon's 1st solo disc, w "V-8 & Protocol"...

Toto - Kingdom of Desire [JEFFREY]

Will Kennedy off YJ's The Spin, Greenhouse, Dreamland, Blue Hats, Run For Your Life, & Like a River - spec-friggin-TACular!

Allan H's Wardenclyffe Tower is a MUST...Husband, Chad, & Vinnie...of course, i'm a big fan of most all things holdsworthian...as "we're not holdsWORTHY!"... Wink

Virgil - Serious Young Insects, Stretch [OMG!!!]; Planet X - their 1st, Live Oz, & Moonbabies...

If you're a drummer & you don't have at LEAST Weckl's Master Plan, Heads Up, or Hard-Wired [or perhaps at least Rhythm of the Soul or Synergy], you're just a galdurned disgraceful wuss... Wink Razz J/K
:grin:

Is this enough fer starters?... Wink Cool

OH yeah...Poison...Best Of...meh heh...heh heh...heh...
[wellll...it DID keep the cockroaches outta my heavy metal collection fer the longest]...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Some Essentials Reply with quote

Vinnie Colaiuta:

Allan Holdsworth: Secrets
Jing Chi: Jing Chi, Live at Yoshi's, 3D
Sting: Ten Summoner's Tales, Demolition Man

Dennis Chambers:

CAB: CAB, CAB 4
* I love both videos of Dennis', which is "In the Pocket" and "Serious Moves". Feature songs from Blue Matter and Loud Jazz. It seemed like they have played [together] for quite some time, the grooves and solos of each musician sounded so good and they feel so comfotable playing the tunes despite the intricacies. All the tunes also have some more "maturity" in them. To me, they sounded way much better than their previous efforts (studio or live recordings). :grin:

Dave Weckl:

Dave Weckl: Master Plan

Steve Gadd:

Steely Dan: Aja
Paul Simon: (The one with "50 Ways" and "Late in the Evening")
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drum recordings that make you go "Holy Sh*t!!!"

Steve Gadd = "Steps Ahead - Smokin' in the Pit"
Narada Michael Walden = "Mahavishnu Orchestra - Visions of the Emerald Beyond"
Vinnie Colaiuta = "Allan Holdsworth - Secrets"
Dave Weckl = "Dave Weckl - Heads Up"
Vinnie Colaiuta = "Cave Men - Cave Men"
Terry Bozzio = "Frank Zappa - Baby Snakes"
Virgil Donati = "On the Virg - Serious Young Insects"
Dave Weckl = "Steve Khan - Public Access"
Vinnie Colaiuta = "John Patitucci - Sketchbook"
Gary Husband = "Allan Holdsworth - IOU"
Steve Smith = "Vital Information - Easier Done Than Said"
Gary Novak = "Bob Berg - Another Standard"
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some different ones:

Rush-Exit Stage Left Neal Peart

King Crimson-Discipline, Beat, Three of a Perfect Pair Trilogy of Bruford

Billy Childs-I've known Rivers Mike Baker rules

Michel Camilo-Suntan

Brand X-Xcommunication

CCEB-Inside Out

And 3 million more!
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