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Johnny Rabb - insane clips at Drummerworld
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JohnDrum



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Johnny Rabb - insane clips at Drummerworld Reply with quote

Forgive me if this is old news, but:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/johnnyrabb3.html

have a look at all the clips - what the F*** is he doing with his right hand!!!???
shame the camera stays so far away
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy is just so sick!!!

Those hands!!!!

He is so creative!!!

I love this cats playing. I wish he stuck with a groove for a little while longer. Lots of ideas this guy has.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Tiger Woods wrote:
I wish he stuck with a groove for a little while longer. Lots of ideas this guy has.


...yeah - the samba, and the bossa type groove over a fast dance tempo
had me tapping feet and nodding heads....impossible not to - the groove is so infectious Very Happy Cool
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Dave Mason



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incredible :shock:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the technique his is using is the same technique that some guy is advertising all over drummerworld for the "1 handed roll" Its a
"trick" that comes from the DCI marching world. this clip, although not bad in ANY respects, was not that interesting to me.

my $.02.

but then again i have the flu and am probably just cranky!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.freehandtechnique.com/
http://www.onehandedroll.com/

same link i have discoverded

Jared Falk is the guy selling the 1 handed roll vid . . . again its a "trick" like backsticking, or faking which all came from the DCI drummer community. the "blazing speed" isnt a result of chops, but of controlling the rebound AND USING THE RIM OF THE DRUM to acheive a doube-bounce with essentially one stroke. there is a limit to the volume this technique can acheive which is a reason that rabb plays at the sort of constant mezzo-forte when applying this trick.

Rabb has been applying this technique for a while, but i have only noticed Falk's video recently.

in person i can show you the technique in about 30 seconds- to describe it without pics is much more difficult.

slowly stroke the drum normally and as soon as the beed hits the head, stop your motion . . . you should notice your stick an inch or so above the rim. slowly continue the hand motion DOWN (not up) so that your hand and thumb-forefinger fulcrum dip a couple inches below the rim ad allow the drumstick to come to rest on the rim itself. your stick should now be pointing upward at some 30 degrees or so (not an exact measurement)

here is the "magic' part . . . as you slowly raise your hand back above the rim, allow the beed of the stick to fall!!! if my instructions make sense and you are doing this correctly, this part of the motion will happen very easily . . . as your hand rises above the rim and the beed descends to the drum a second strike on the drumhead will occur when your hand and the beed come back into line with each other. continue your hand upward as if preparing another for another stroke.

2 hits 1 stroke . . .

as you get better at this you will not even here any rim clicks and you can acheive some burning speeds at about mezzoforte. tension in the fulcrum and the depth of your stroke all effect this technique and you will have to find that "feeling' on your own . . . its like riding a bike, once you get the feeling, you cant forget it, and you can drop it in pretty easily . . .sense its not about chops, you could play this 1 handed roll till the day you die or impress the ladies at your old-folks home!

enjoy your practicing!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr-funk....any chance you can post a vid of this. I've been goofing w/ it for several nights now and I'm not getting the feel of it
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

sjj123 wrote:
dr-funk....any chance you can post a vid of this. I've been goofing w/ it for several nights now and I'm not getting the feel of it


i searched on youtube and found that there are several good demonstrations there. this one is short and straight forward.
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=iJMQeONrOmg&search=hand%20drum%20roll

this one is longer and slower and that may help drive home the message a bit- http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=EM8H55vu2nM&search=hand%20drum%20roll at the end of this video the kid plays some kid stuff as he is pretty young . . . but then for the last 30 seconds he dedmonstrates a groove with 1hand-roll thing that is pretty solid and downright hip!!!

i just discovered this- the shred-metal community have adapted this technique and use regularly. they call them gravity blasts: http://www3.youtube.com/results?search=gravity+blast&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

who knew!?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's this?
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=jhoDGucE1rk&search=hand%20drum%20roll
:shock:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Steve Holmes wrote:
Who's this?
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=jhoDGucE1rk&search=hand%20drum%20roll :shock:


The one at the top is Derek Roddy, the other one is Bobby Jarzombek.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

derek has a mean 1 hand 1 foot going on, but with both of these guys, i dont see them feeling it, it seems more like its a competition and they are taking it too seriously and thinking about what to play next that will be cool instead of just going with it, and most importantly, having fun!

i have to say though derek is one of the few i've seen who has really good control of his speed

Also, does it seem like they always have to hit every single piece of equipment on their kit lol!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great...thanks man....I was not making the first hit simultaneoulsly w/ the rim...I see it now...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow... impressive from a speed / control / coordination pov....alls i can say is that my chops really suck.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby Jarzombek, Man I'm a HUGE fan of him, he's really INCREDIBLE !!! :shock:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha i bet bobby has hit himself in the face a fair few times when going to crash on those 2 crashes behind him....probably when he first put them and was still getting used to them.

If you guys havent checked gene hoglan...hes probably my favourite metal drummer, even though im not that into metal....and i hate the band he is in right now.

But Gene is a huge guy, and he makes everything look so effortless and easy.
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