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by john lamb
Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:19 pm
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

IS. ONLY. MAKING. ONE. SOUND. I understand clearly already. You don't need to yell. Prove. It. The. clock. In. Your. Video. One sound. Or. Two. Sure - I even suggested methods to do so .. however, earlier you asked me to prove something by providing a specific form of evidence. I provided said evid...
by john lamb
Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:56 am
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

The other side of the coin can be true for me, also: sometimes when listening to tamborim I hear indentical notes because I forgot that they can be intentionally varied, and then when I remember, and listen again, I hear the differences. The intentional variation is something that I think the Tick ...
by john lamb
Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:51 am
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

There AREN'T 2 different sounds in the video, at leas, not in the way you are alleging. The tick tock effect is still in effect in the video, and the example isn't misleading. It is leading. If people didn't hear 2 sounds with a steady clicking, then it would lead them away from the truth.But since ...
by john lamb
Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:52 pm
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

Except in your own video that depends on it "actually" sounding like Tick Tock to make the case It doesn't. The tick tock effect will stand or fall no matter what I say about it. Science is like that. I get it you don't like the ticking in the video. Fair enough, point taken. Nothing I ca...
by john lamb
Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:19 am
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

Worse, every example in your picture of the page in a book from the library is conditional: the conclusions are prefaced with "we may" or "we often." People aren't machines and the environment, personal experience and what they want to do all have significant influence over what...
by john lamb
Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:06 pm
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

If you offer up something that absolutely is making only one sound and then I hear two, then you have something. I stopped by the Library today and pulled the first music perception text off the shelf, turned to the chapter on rhythm (there is typically only one chapter on rhythm) and took this pic...
by john lamb
Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:02 am
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

You just proved my point that a clock is not a valid example for your theory with sentences 1 and 2. This is like saying "Not all hamburgers are beef, therefore you can't get mad cow disease from any hamburger" It is a composition fallacy and the fallacy fallacy as you are arguing that be...
by john lamb
Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:27 pm
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

We'll agree to disagree. Some clocks certainly create two separate sounds. Some do it just to create the tick-tock sound. Most modern clocks are too small to actually make a noticeable difference in sound, though, and many ticks are created by an identical movement. In other words, some do, but some...
by john lamb
Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:35 pm
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

Wow. Well, I appreciate the bibliography, sort of. A few direct citations would have actually been better. I gave you one, then (unfortunately) true to my MO, I overkilled. :p I'd just show you that graphic, but it seems that I'll have to go to the University library for it, and I can't be bothered...
by john lamb
Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:54 pm
Forum: Drumming Chat
Topic: The Tick Tock Effect
Replies: 31
Views: 22705

Re: The Tick Tock Effect

I understand your skepticism, but honestly, the research on this goes back to the 19th century. Grab ANY textbook on music perception. I'm looking for a chart I saw in one text that explains everything - I'll post it when I remember which book it comes from. I think it is from this one: Jones, M. R....

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