Gavin and Axis pedal set up

[groober]

Hi Gavin, just wanted to understand something right ... You use the normal style beaters ( not the extended type ) to play with. How do you maintain the footplate angle after having changed beaters ? Mine came with the extended ones and the footplate was at a good angle, but now I have added the normal types I have had to bring the angle down to get a playable reach distance form beater to head but as said the footplate is now at a lesser angle and fairly unplayable. Any ideas ? Thanks so much in advance ...... Best wishes and max respect Jonathan

[YamahaPlayer]

Here ya go -

http://www.axispercussion.com/images_pd ... struct.pdf

[groober]

Hi Yamaha player, how's it going ?
I have read that document and still think that there is a potential design flaw...Let me explain..I have adjusted the angle successfully as mentioned before but now i have a problem with the footplate (board) angle because they are directly connected. If I understand right one has to then obtain an optional footboard height spacer (not shown) to then make a shorter connection thus pulling the board up closer to the assembly and making the board in effect higher.? Does this sound right ? If so I think it's a little unfriendly on the customization front, a little niggly if you're in a hurry and over the other side of the pond with no spares readily available. Does the optional footboard height spacer (not shown) adjust precisely to provide the missing measurement/distance you have when changing from extended beater to non extended beater and if so great in that that's probably all i need but shizers if i want to mess around and experiment a wee bit.
That's why i asked a really busy guy like Gavin because i am sure he's probably explored all options and knows a quick fix if there is one.
Hopefully you do too
Here's hoping that there is one

Thanks

[YamahaPlayer]

Sorry man, I don't own Axis. Just found the manual for you real quick like.

[groober]

Sorry man, I don't own Axis. Just found the manual for you real quick like.

Gavin is very busy, he also has a drum tech, direct communication with the company and is a high level endorsed pro. It's not really realistic to compare your experience with players at that level.

If it takes more then a few minutes to adjust a pedal, why bother? So many great pedals out there, for nearly half the cost...

Personally I've used DW pedals for longer then I can remember. They simply work great. Adjustable in moments. Customer service is amazing. Parts are easy to get. Warranty is complete (not that I've had to use it).

Just to clarify a couple of your points..
I read the manual, hence made an informed modification but as you might have read came across a problem. Appreciate the link but still stumped.

I don't compare myself to Gavin but do play on a daily pro basis and have over 26 years experience in the biz. Also Gavin has replied before to posts about himself or other related topics helping out in what seems to be a very friendly and humble manner helping others and sharing knowledge, so I certainly don't feel guilty about the post just hopeful to get a response from the man himself, but also delighted by any solution offered from any one who's been there.

"If it takes mo than a few minutes to adjust, why bother" ....well because i think it could be worth it. Patience and determination often payoff. Take the fairer sex for example ....just kidding..well.. Anyway my thoughts on cost are ... cost is relative and doesn't really mean much to me when we are talking about instruments of the trade used on a daily basis. I don't really like DW pedals as much, did use them for years and was relieved when i discovered Axis and it just seemed that they felt easier and smoother and better built generally.
Anyway I digress...

Any body ?

[YamahaPlayer]

Not sure how exactly their direct drive system works, but there are only so many adjustment points as it is. Systematically go through them and you should find which one does what. From the pictures it appears the upper cam connection point should be rotatable to adjust the foot board height.

[groober]

For what it's worth ...Gavin seems to be a real thinker and someone who really tries all options to find out how things work, hence me thinking he's exactly the kinda guy i'd like to ask.

" You're complaint(s) are fairly common with Axis from what I've seen. " Funny how people remember complaints better than they do solutions...

" Not sure how exactly their direct drive system works " Nothing more to say then, I guess.

" Systematically go through them and you should find which one does what. " Just read my post please .... I've actually got one here in front of me

" For the record, Axis uses the same bearings as DW (and all other brands) - the cheapest generic brand bearings available. If you want to really see what smooth is, throw some higher end Bones in your pedals. The difference you are feeling is most likely from being a direct drive system (vs Strap or Chain). " ....... No comment there on the bones because that just sounds to me like you're getting into some negative space. And the main difference between the "Axis feel and the DW's is related to the "Variable drive lever" not the cheap cams and one piece footboard feels very different to me.

Thank you Yamahaplayer


Any body else have any hands on experience or ideas that can "shed some light" .....

[Steve Holmes]

YamahaPlayer:
For someone who doesn't have an axis pedal you sure have a lot to say about them. The guy's just asking for some info. Your responses aren't helping or contributing (aside from the pdf link). These are the kind of posts that make folks not want to come to this forum. If you don't agree or understand please stop posting. If you choose to continue to post, please ask your self how you're helping or contributing before clicking *submit*.

Thanks.

[YamahaPlayer]

Truth, edited for politeness.

Here's some more info for you groober:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/show ... hp?t=48291

http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread. ... ard-Height

Additional links; though all say the same thing - http://www.google.com/search?q=adjsting ... dc9cfc4964



It appears there is no independent footplate angle adjustment on those pedals. Though some complicated "fixes", see the first link.

[groober]

Hi Yamahaplayer
A genuine thank you for the links but as stated I have got that far both independently and by looking at a couple of those links already. It seems that it is (at least in my mind) a design flaw in as much as it just wasn't considered to be that important). It is the very reason for this desperate plea. But where there's a will etc etc. Aluminium spacers seem easy enough to come by or even make but i was hoping for perhaps an alternative. Best so far seems to be a rework of the linkage from being a solid piece to becoming an adjustable part made up of two interlocking yet slidable pieces with a screw type locker in there if you get my meaning. That's definitely another reason for asking a top Dude like Mr Harrison.
Hell i might start even making the damn things cos there is a problem there. Look out for my ebay link in the near future lol Thanks for being a good sport and sending in the links all the same

The mystery continues .. By the way yamahaplayer the Truth is always welcome in my book....