Carlock moves to Grestch

[deseipel]

OT: aren't the Brooklyn kits simply the USA Maples from about 10 yrs ago with a bit different sizes and wraps? I have some USA Maples. They came with flanged hoops instead of die cast rims (this was before they went to die cast & changed the name to USA Custom I think). Looking at Gretsch's site, looks like the Brooklyn series is maple/poplar and USA kits are just maple.

Keith sounds great.

[jem]

Maybe it's been discussed already but I miss the shallow bass drums in the Brooklyn series, a 14x22 please.

[bclarkio]

Apparently, he's added a couple LP items to his setup, too - a micro-snare and cowbell.

http://www.lpmusic.com/lpnews/2012/03/keith-carlock-signs-with-lp/

[sjj123]

An aside, however, if you have it check out "It's No Fun Not To Like Pop" off Wayne Kranz/Carlock/Lefebvre....that is some cool sounding kick/snare on that tune...never gets old

[Henry II]

Maybe it's my ears, but he talks about how "open" the Gretsch Brooklyn sound is, but the PHX series he was playing sounded so much more open that these sound boxy in comparison. To me anyway.

My experience with "real" Gretsch drums is that they sound amazing from behind the kit and within about 10-15 feet out front. Huge, open, melodic, no harsh overtones. But, further away from the kit than that and they start to lose their tone and begin to sound flat compared to, say, MCA's. If you're in an acoustically lively venue, like a genuine concert hall, it's not really an issue. But, in sound swallowing clubs with low ceilings, it is.

[DSOP]

My experience with "real" Gretsch drums is that they sound amazing from behind the kit and within about 10-15 feet out front. Huge, open, melodic, no harsh overtones. But, further away from the kit than that and they start to lose their tone and begin to sound flat compared to, say, MCA's. If you're in an acoustically lively venue, like a genuine concert hall, it's not really an issue. But, in sound swallowing clubs with low ceilings, it is.

I've owned both. Yamaha MCA are like vanilla ice cream. Gretsch USA Custom are like spicy lasagna.

[Henry II]

My experience with "real" Gretsch drums is that they sound amazing from behind the kit and within about 10-15 feet out front. Huge, open, melodic, no harsh overtones. But, further away from the kit than that and they start to lose their tone and begin to sound flat compared to, say, MCA's. If you're in an acoustically lively venue, like a genuine concert hall, it's not really an issue. But, in sound swallowing clubs with low ceilings, it is.

I've owned both. Yamaha MCA are like vanilla ice cream. Gretsch USA Custom are like spicy lasagna.

Hmmm! To my ear, MCA's have much more high range overtones, where Gretsch Customs seem to focus on the middle and lower range overtones.

[DSOP]

I can't tell you for sure about overtone predominance in one or the other, but I can say that the Yamaha's sounded great, just kind of generic. The Gretsch have more personality TO ME. I think the Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute probably have more pizzazz than the maple. The Gretsch bass drum sounds a lot better in either case (TO ME). I can find fault in any drum too though, but no drum company asked for my opinions.

[drum6282]

Two very different drums in my opinion - To my ears and in person, the Gretsch definitely have more "spice" to them than the Yamaha's - I owned MCA a couple of years ago and recently the USA Custom - the Yamaha's are much cleaner and focused than the Gretsch - I prefer the Gretsch shells. Both are great sounding drums though.

I think someone commented on the Brooklyn's sounding "boxier" than Phx - I don't hear much difference - so maybe my ears are screwed - I'm also listening on notebook speakers...

[DSOP]

Yamaha has Gretsch beat on hardware, that's for sure.