Dream Theater

[Rene]

That last clip was so MEH. I can't believe they did this huge deal audition and ....that's the result. So. Underwhelming.

Indeed MEH, but this footage was shot before the DT audition ......

But one zappa statement comes to mind after watching this: " i'm only in it for the money" ..... he should be nominated for razzie ...

[langmick]

He might be the stiffest drummer I've ever seen.

He's stiffer than the friggin Tin Man.

[bigbone]

He might be the stiffest drummer I've ever seen.

He's stiffer than the friggin Tin Man.

Who ? Mangini ??????

[cjbdrm]

I guess this is the part of the thread where we start putting Mangini down subtlely because we're jealous of him...

I thought he sounded great with DT...and that's what counts.

IMO most rock drum solos are stiff and boring, even more so when they're used to gratuitously promote gear...

[circh bustom]

Anyone who gets such a high profile gig is and should be under a large amount of scrutiny. Plus, that video that surfaced of Mangini and Chambers battling, come ON!! Chambers wiped the floor with him. Both chops wise and groove wise. He may wind up impressing me as a band member, but most of the "stuff" ive heard with him not in a band situation seems like all regurgitated exercises to me. Well played, well executed, difficult exercises, but exercises none the less.

[Steve Holmes]

They should have got this guy.


Hey give me SOME credit. I was putting down Mangini LONG before this.

Seriously, I have respect for his dedication to the drums, his success as a musician, but I'm not a fan of his playing at all. His whole 2 kits together thing and switching hands..how does that contribute to the music, or to the drumming in ANY way? There's nothing sonic about that decision. The fact that one side of his kit has the same sound palette a the other supports that theory.

You can win the rock game. You can get to the end. The guys in that vid have basically done that. It irks me when great rock drummers do that, and stop pushing themselves. Next thing you know they're 40 and still breaking up 16th note trips as 4 with hands and 2 with feet except NOW OMG THEY HAVE IT MASTERED!! Take off the water wings and swim in the deep end of the pool already.

[littlegrooves]

Here are some of the dudes from Steve's link doing one of their tunes (with a different drummer, it seems).

All I gotta say it that I like it better than the new DT stuff, for what that's worth.

Starts the riff-rock at 1:30-- Nice to hear some 1 & 3 once in a while...

[langmick]

That was cool.

RE: Mangini and stiffness. Just remarking on his technique, very cramped and linear, angular. He can play, obviously, but I can't watch him play. It hurts to watch. Rotator cuff injury waiting to happen.

[Yussuf]

Still can't get over this one..

[Juan Expósito]

For me, the only thing listenable from Mangini has been his part shown in the DT audition. I think he did a good playing there, in my opinnion the best of all the audition.

The rest of him...I miss a lot of punch/power in his backbeat and the sound/tunning of his snare is very soft....

That Modern Drummer performance is awesome