Meet the new boss

[DSOP]

Of course the artists feel they should make more than the companies, but then the companies are offering a service that the artist can not easily do themselves. No one is forcing the artist to put their songs on iTunes.

You're absolutely right. The only way to force iTunes (Apple) to take a more reasonable cut, is for a competitor to come along and offer a different deal (Amazon is just as bad). It will happen eventually. I personally have never used any Apple products or software, and never will.

But what about Google and YouTube? They don't want to pay ANYTHING for using copyrighted material. They force the owners of the copyright to police their sites and go through laborious hurdles to take down content (of course, by that time it's already been copied a millions times). And then, they STILL link to the content and post a notice saying WHO TOLD THEM TO REMOVE IT. This has to stop.

And then you've got the all-out pirating and P2P websites which just need to be shut down and prosecuted.

[Kurtis]

I personally have never used any Apple products or software, and never will.

why is that? you have a smartphone? does the same thing the iphone does. you buy music on amazon? same thing as itunes or any other place to digitally download music or movies. don't like the evil empire apple has created? they seem to be successful. i understand your old school views. it's a different school now. will there come a day when every single P2P site and the like will be shut down so not a single song or movie can be downloaded? if that happens and people have to buy every single song/movie will music or movies get better or more of the same?

[circh bustom]

I have used Apple in the past, but as soon as I found out that they proudly support illegal immigrants, I switched to a different phone. My new phone is bigger, more powerful and a hell of a lot cheaper. So is my laptop. I am shackled by iTunes in the fact that I have my whole music collection on my old iPod, but that doesnt mean I have to give them any more money. Apple's marketing campaign is the most successful brainwashing ever in the advertising world. Second only to cigarettes.

[Lucas Ives]

I have used Apple in the past, but as soon as I found out that they proudly support illegal immigrants, I switched to a different phone.

Curious what this is in reference to -- I know Laurene Powell's politics and that she personally supports Dream Act-like policy, but I didn't know there was an official company line on immigration?

[circh bustom]

Right after Jobs died, I read about it on Yahoo and MSN. I found nothing to contradict it. No rebuttals or retractions. I liked my iPhone, in fact Lucas, my iPhone still has your Polynome on it. I still keep it charged to practice with, but proudly supporting illegal immigration is something I cannot allow my money to be openly used for. How bout helping a homeless vet? Or a 56 yr old man who lost his job due to downsizing and at his age will have a hard time finding a job that will pay his mortgage. Sorry, rant done. Back to our regularly scheduled ranting. lol.

[Lucas Ives]

No apologies necessary, was just curious. I'd like to read the article, if you have a chance to track it down shoot it my way?

This is somewhat OT, I agree. Back to on-topic ranting. :)

[DSOP]

i understand your old school views. it's a different school now.

Please. Apple hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done. NOTHING. They just put some shiny boxes around it and bought some air time promoting it.

Apple is the McDonalds of the tech world. I don't eat at McDonalds either, but at least McDonalds pioneered a bunch of shit.

Apple's deal with musicians and publishers is pretty much extortion.

And fuck "smartphones". They should take the word "phone" out of it, since they're all useless for actually talking to anyone with. Micro-computer, yes. Phone calls? Not so much (this goes for all smartphones, not just Apple's bricks).

[Lucas Ives]

Please. Apple hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done. NOTHING. They just put some shiny boxes around it and bought some air time promoting it.

I agree with you in terms of the underlying technology (stealing PARC's wimp, turning BSD into OS X, everything else in between), but in terms of user experience... watching my parents and grandparents (non-technical) try to learn to use Vista vs. OS X / iOS, there's no comparison. Microsoft apps are bloated and confusing: I can't remember a time I started up Word that I didn't end up regretting it.

I haven't seen Windows 8 yet.

[sejuba]

i understand your old school views. it's a different school now.

Please. Apple hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done. NOTHING. They just put some shiny boxes around it and bought some air time promoting it.

Apple is the McDonalds of the tech world. I don't eat at McDonalds either, but at least McDonalds pioneered a bunch of shit.

Apple's deal with musicians and publishers is pretty much extortion.

And fuck "smartphones". They should take the word "phone" out of it, since they're all useless for actually talking to anyone with. Micro-computer, yes. Phone calls? Not so much (this goes for all smartphones, not just Apple's bricks).

Nah ! You're just being an old fart hehe ! The genius of Apple boils down to two things: 1 - Their marketing skills 2 - Software. OS/X is KILLER ! Definitely easier to use than Windows, nicer to look at, quicker (in many ways), less annoying,
and all the i-softwares they pack this shit with is miles ahead of Microsoft's. Yes, you can do the same stuff on Windows, its just the damn fact they simplified everything for you.

As for the iPhone, I'm in love with it. It sucks as a phone, I agree but that's not why I bought it for... you can do A LOT with it... i have my metronomes, finance apps, dictionaries, email/skype, music, awesome video capabilities (for a phone),
great calculators (don't laugh), GPS, youtube on the go... damn, the list goes forever... and yes, I use all this crap to make my life easier.

[Kurtis]

DSOP wrote:
Please. Apple hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done. NOTHING. They just put some shiny boxes around it and bought some air time promoting it.


I agree with you in terms of the underlying technology (stealing PARC's wimp, turning BSD into OS X, everything else in between), but in terms of user experience... watching my parents and grandparents (non-technical) try to learn to use Vista vs. OS X / iOS, there's no comparison. Microsoft apps are bloated and confusing: I can't remember a time I started up Word that I didn't end up regretting it.

Apple must have done something right. They have a good amount of scratch. Their products are very good. Interface is very easy to navigate. My 3 year old can work her way around it no problems. Love the new Ipad. Best on the market. You can bitch all you want and give credit to whom ever. Jobs didn't create anything? He knew how to get things done his way. Just your run of the mill visionary huh.

Apple hasn't done anything that hasn't already been done. Who gives a flying F at this point of the game. Look what they have put out. A very good product. Apple has billions of surplus they need to put to use. Yup a few bumps with labor and such. There are lots of companies that employ cheep labor overseas. Most with crappy working conditions. TV's, audio equipment, computers, all that stuff. You dig deep enough into companies you are guaranteed to find plenty of dirt.