VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby Julián Fernández » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:14 am

jean krupa wrote:I am just trying to offer some friendly advice. No harm intended, no need to be offended. I'm using a simple program ACL audio cleaning lab. Okay if you prefer EQ instead of remaster, fine. That's all it is. I've played the original discs the past 20 years on many many speaker systems and I can unequivocally say that most recordings are flat where the drums are concerned. I really don't think it's my hearing or loss of any high-end. I've already had my hearing checked from an audiologist and I'm cool.


Sorry if I sounded rude... I meant that maybe you like to hear things a certain way and that´s cool. I have a decent setup (nice DAC and Genelec speakers) and I couldn´t be happier about it... :mrgreen:
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby jean krupa » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:56 am

i wish I could send you a small sample of the re-EQ'd version and ask you what kind of a sonic difference you detect.
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Postby Julián Fernández » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:12 pm

Go ahead... Would love to check it out...
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby Paul Marangoni » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:39 pm

Is anyone else put off by the incessant use of pitch correcting/altering software? Her voice sounds like a machine and really freaks me out. Can't listen.
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Postby Paul Marangoni » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:41 pm

jean krupa wrote:i wish I could send you a small sample of the re-EQ'd version and ask you what kind of a sonic difference you detect.


No thanks.
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby Pocketplayer » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:56 pm

I am totally open to hearing the remix...I want to do this with jazz music
turn down the horns and bring up the ride...the horn mix is way too high
for me

that girl has a rich uncle right to hire those A session cats...her voice was
what 10k other gals in LA have got down...where does VC get his gigs?
Management team? What's the process? she sounded like a young
Vanessa Carlton...her first album had decent tunes but her voice
was horrid to me...Abe Jr played lights out of some of those cuts

In-Tents...??? New phrase I am not hip to? Learn me that one please...
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby langmick » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:37 pm

Is anyone else put off by the incessant use of pitch correcting/altering software?


I picked up Don Felder's last album...barely made it through a tune. Sounded so bad and inauthentic.
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby Julián Fernández » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:52 pm

Tough crowd no doubt... Girl wrote a cool tune, with interesting 5/8 - 6/8 sections... (btw, every other LA girl would do a vid focused on herself. Fuck those old session players. This girl is featuring the bad as much as her. Nice touch)

btw, some of the tougher critics are weekend warriors playing covers, go figure...
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby Paul Marangoni » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:48 pm

Julián Fernández wrote:Tough crowd no doubt... Girl wrote a cool tune, with interesting 5/8 - 6/8 sections... (btw, every other LA girl would do a vid focused on herself. Fuck those old session players. This girl is featuring the bad as much as her. Nice touch)

btw, some of the tougher critics are weekend warriors playing covers, go figure...


I never said the tune was no good. It's very good. And the playing is top notch. My issue with the vocals is the same issue I have with almost 100% of any music which has been released ever since about 2010. The Melodyne madness is just too much for me and I just cannot listen to vocals with that sort of processing. Let's not forget that music is an aural thing, not visual. It's nice that she posted a video of the sessions, but it would have been nicer if her singing wasn't processed in that manner. I may have even purchased a copy of the record.

I'm not sure if you're referring to me with your weekend warrior dig, but I rarely play or engineer anymore. There was a time when I made a living from music, but that was long ago. I think my experience does carry some weight however, especially as it pertains to the recording process.
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Re: VINNIE - The thread about Colaiuta

Postby Pocketplayer » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:19 pm

Gotta agree w/Paul here:
"Melodyne lets you work with audio in an entirely new way.
One that is musical, nifty, crystal-clear and almost magical.
Working with Melodyne is like being able to say to a singer
“hold this note a bit longer” or to a pianist “give slightly less
weight to the third in this chord” – hours, weeks, even years
after the recording session."

She reminds me of my buddy's daughter...he is a big wig exec who
hired A session cats (totally don't get the comment on those
"old session players") to play on her record...those guys could make
my vocals sound respectable! Art is art, but when you total the Melodyne
impact and the A session old F' dudes...what do you have left?
Relevant topic about music and the industry pertaining to technology,
talent, and overall production.

Isn't it kinda like that crazy hot actress, when seen w/o make-up and hair
looks like your cousin? More power to her...
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