Re: Another traditional grip question.
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:20 pm
Vinnie had shoulder surgery a little while back.. was it from Trad, or cymbal heights, or just the sheer volume of playing?
Most of the guys I've met that play Trad (Virg, Vinnie, etc) have some gnarly left hands. But who cares? Whatever minor issues arise from playing that style certainly trumps the gains. Those guys also practice, HARD, DAILY.
Do you practice every day? 20 mins? 30 mins? 1 hour? 2 hours? Twice a day? What is your commitment level?
Video yourself, mark your gains against yourself. Not the masters, progress will always seem like nothing compared to monsters like that. Take where you are, set a goal, in 30 days I want to be 6 bpm faster to the click on these exercises... or whatever is relevant to YOU. You need daily reinforcement, short, medium and long term goals. A way to mark improvement. Your memory does not work. Get a mirror, get a camera, get a tape recorder. See where you are now, make some different goals then work to smash them.
But you have to work hard. Really hard. Mentally. Physically.
I think in a lot of ways drum set players are vag's when it comes to practice. 10 a day's (10 hours a day), is the norm for marching in the summer. Plus what those guys put in after field practice. 5 hours a day of playing is normal for local high school lines during normal school days.
This is true for ALL sports. Highschool, college (even more) and pro which is even more time! A life style of commitment to your skill.
If you want to have hands at that level, then go get them. There's nothing stopping you. No magic secret. Quality Time In - Quality Time Out.
Playing trad you have to do almost twice as much work, two hands, two very different grips. That's a conscious choice you have to make to devote that extra time into it. It doesn't matter too much though, because if you want it, you will get it. You CAN play at that level. If you want...
"If you're not sweating after 15 minutes, you're not practicing." - Bone
Most of the guys I've met that play Trad (Virg, Vinnie, etc) have some gnarly left hands. But who cares? Whatever minor issues arise from playing that style certainly trumps the gains. Those guys also practice, HARD, DAILY.
Do you practice every day? 20 mins? 30 mins? 1 hour? 2 hours? Twice a day? What is your commitment level?
Video yourself, mark your gains against yourself. Not the masters, progress will always seem like nothing compared to monsters like that. Take where you are, set a goal, in 30 days I want to be 6 bpm faster to the click on these exercises... or whatever is relevant to YOU. You need daily reinforcement, short, medium and long term goals. A way to mark improvement. Your memory does not work. Get a mirror, get a camera, get a tape recorder. See where you are now, make some different goals then work to smash them.
But you have to work hard. Really hard. Mentally. Physically.
I think in a lot of ways drum set players are vag's when it comes to practice. 10 a day's (10 hours a day), is the norm for marching in the summer. Plus what those guys put in after field practice. 5 hours a day of playing is normal for local high school lines during normal school days.
This is true for ALL sports. Highschool, college (even more) and pro which is even more time! A life style of commitment to your skill.
If you want to have hands at that level, then go get them. There's nothing stopping you. No magic secret. Quality Time In - Quality Time Out.
Playing trad you have to do almost twice as much work, two hands, two very different grips. That's a conscious choice you have to make to devote that extra time into it. It doesn't matter too much though, because if you want it, you will get it. You CAN play at that level. If you want...
"If you're not sweating after 15 minutes, you're not practicing." - Bone