Early Toss...

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drumdawg
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Re: Early Toss...

Postby drumdawg » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:29 pm



love the solo at 18:08 :)
so simple but so deep. every note means something...
sjw
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Re: Early Toss...

Postby Pocketplayer » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:00 am

Whatever Toss has, well, he has a lot of it!
He doesn't sound like anyone else. I think he
is very original and a real risk taker.
Dude is SO inside what he plays! I NEVER hear
licks w/Toss, just music!

Reading that dissertation on Wekcl, seems like
a fit here for something Dave said pertaining to Toss
above;

Drum set soloists are also charged with creating musical breaths throughout solos
on instruments that do not physically require air to produce a sound. The absence of a
physical reminder to breathe during performances requires drummers to systematically
insert rhythmic breaks throughout solos to ensure an acceptable cohesive flow, similar to
the speech patterns used in communication. In addition, these rhythmic breaks provide
clarity in communicating structure and form of the solo. Without these musical breaths,
drum set solos can quickly become overfilled with an abundance of unnecessary notes
that lack an identifiable organized theme. Weckl made the following statement regarding
the importance of leaving space, or in Weckl’s terms, “creating space” during the course
of a drum set solo.

Referring to drummer Steve Gadd, Weckl stated:
Steve (Gadd) could make a whole room of people stand up and yell. He
was just unbelievable, because he used dynamics and space so well. He
would lay for that one certain accent, while, in the meantime, the groove
was just so intense and flirtatious. He would flirt with the listener, and
then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, this thing would happen just once
–BAM! It made people smile and get that shiver inside. I always thought,
‘Boy! That’s what I want to do. I want to be able to create that excitement.’
And it doesn’t necessarily take a lot of chops to do that. It does to a point,
if you want certain complicated things to happen, but sometimes the
simplest little dynamic thing will do it.
Jeff Porcaro Groove Master
http://jeffporcaro.blogspot.com
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Re: Early Toss...

Postby Kurtis » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:59 pm





Toss didn't play on the record but he did all the live stuff. Third Matinee Robert Page took over for Kevin Gilbert. Vinnie is on a few cuts of that record. Great musicians.

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