Left side chinas?

[jem]

What would you recommend for a left side china, like the ones Vinnie is using?
I should probably ask this over at cymbalholics, but since it's a bit related to Vinne I'll try here

[Riddim]

What kind of musical situations are you in?

[Yussuf]

Try the exact model Vinnie is using. Or pick up the one that pleases your ear. Try it also on the right side.

[Steve Holmes]

Interesting question. There's pros and cons to having anything on the right/left side of the kit simply because the opposite hand is available to use the kit at the same time. So, left side china = I can easily hit anything right of the china with my right hand while hitting the china with my left. Right side chine = I can hit anything left of the china with my left while hitting the china with my right.
A bigger benefit to the right side is riding the china in some fashion is more comfortable because there's no one-hand-under-the-other going on.

I've used the 19" K China for years. I Love it.

Vinnie does a lot of cool things with the china on the left, my favorite being the GHUUUSSH (goosh?)..which is the floor tom and china together, makes for a unique sound when played loud or soft.
VERY START of this vid: You cant see it, but you can definitely hear it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22IWnwHjjGY

One of my favorite things he does is what I call "finessing the china" where he hits it quietly as a layer over a BD pattern...check around 2:55 here (link goes directly to right before that spot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2fdN1uXvp4&#t=02m52s <== fucking beautiful.

Also he uses it as the "backbeat" during "Toast for Eli" for a slow type thing.

A On another note I think Neil Peart actually used the china on he right in some very cool ways, going back and forth between it and the ride on tunes like "Subdivisions" (outro), "Jacobs Ladder", "Between the Wheels", and "New World Man". Interestingly he used a Wuhan china during most of his career, he may have stopped when he switched to $abian.

[Joe Nocella]

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I just recently added a China to my setup on the left. It's been fun finding places in songs where it can be used effectively. FWIW, I play in a 5 piece Top 40 band. Mine is an 18" Zildjian Oriental....it's a bit more metallic and clangy as opposed to whoosh or gooshy. At least that's the way it sounds from my perspective. Drives my bass player nuts!

BTW, it's not pictured here! I couldn't use it due to space constraints.

[Steve Holmes]

"BTW, it's not pictured here!"

Here's...not a picture of the china?

[Phil T.]

I got a 20" Paiste china back in the '70s that I used on the right trying to get that trashy Bill Bruford ride sound from One More Red Nightmare. Later found a used Zildjian china (probably a 19") that I used more as a crash. Those cymbals eventually migrated around the drums according need / mood / whatever. Used both when feeling the need to go over the top. I haven't used them as much lately but they're interesting voices to have.

[bstocky]

Ahhahaha. Here's a picture not showing my china cymbal. Nice.

Back on topic - try a bunch of china cymbals out and buy the one you like. Vinnie switches things up but usually has something big over there. 17" and 19" K. china, 20" A.Custom, 18"- 20" HHX... etc etc etc. All good stuff.

[DSOP]

What would you recommend for a left side china, like the ones Vinnie is using?

Big (20" or 22") and thin. Zildjian A or K, yesterday. Paiste 602, tomorrow.

I love having a chinese type cymbal on both sides, but I've gotten lazy over the years and don't like hauling too many stands around anymore. Plus, I usually like having a music stand on my left.

[kinkymook]

I've always enjoyed having a china on my right, something I can ride on (ala Simon Phillips) or crash. Two years ago I added a 14" Sabian "Prototype" with 8 rivets in it to my left. Jesus Christ on a Popsicle stick-I love that cymbal!