Revealing Simultaneous Relationship in Time

[Steve Holmes]

Good discussion. Sometimes it's hard to think outside the box. It's good to do "brain exercise" by trying to learn concepts that approach the limits of our understanding. At the end of the day I think a satisfying musical outcome is the goal however.

Reminds of this vid (sorry, no YT link)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150831200271407 <- 5 and 7 are the same! Mind = BLOWN.

Effrain is coming from a place that is based on numbers as well, but in a different way I think. I really dig him.

[Terry Branam]

not giving up Terry.

[Mark Levine]

Good discussion. Sometimes it's hard to think outside the box. It's good to do "brain exercise" by trying to learn concepts that approach the limits of our understanding. At the end of the day I think a satisfying musical outcome is the goal however.

Reminds of this vid (sorry, no YT link)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150831200271407 <- 5 and 7 are the same! Mind = BLOWN.

Effrain is coming from a place that is based on numbers as well, but in a different way I think. I really dig him.

Hey Steve,
It is very much appreciated and i thank you for allowing me to be a part of your forum community.

I believe that helping to train the eye and mind, to identify the phrases, groupings, and pulse relation in time, through a notation as close to a real time performance as possible, greatly moves education forward, in achieving that satisfying musical outcome, in being heard and felt.

If the visionaries of Apple and Microsoft, (in their earliest days in the very, very beginning), were using the scales and arpeggios of drumming, it is my humble opinion, that this foundation is the direction their beginning would start from.

I will check out the video link. All the best to you Steve, Mark Levine

[matthughen]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150831200271407 <- 5 and 7 are the same! Mind = BLOWN.

Effrain is coming from a place that is based on numbers as well, but in a different way I think. I really dig him.

Wow. Great video.

[Kurtis]

Reminds of this vid (sorry, no YT link)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150831200271407 <- 5 and 7 are the same! Mind = BLOWN.

i spent many hours in Efrains open counsellings. Had one intense year listening to this kind of stuff for hours. The stuff sunk in a few years later. Funny how he mentioned a student of his Costas. I remember him well. It was like 16 years ago though. Costas is from Italy. I hung around with him a lot. He taught me so much stuff. Miss that dude. when tj helmerich and brett garsed first put their band together back in 94ish Costos got the gig. Guy new his stuff.

[Juan Expósito]

Effrain´s video is great !!

[Josiah]

Effrain is a pretty rad dude.

I like what he was saying about the difference between math - and playing notes. It's like a triplet, you can never play a perfect triplet mathematically. But we know you can play perfectly sounding triplets.

[Lucas Ives]

I like what he was saying about the difference between math - and playing notes. It's like a triplet, you can never play a perfect triplet mathematically.

It's only a side effect of the fact we usually count in base 10 that 3 doesn't divide evenly. Use a different base and thirds are whole numbers.

What he's talking about is different, pushing and pulling the spaces ever-so-slightly to match the accents he picked of 5 and 7. Swinging the groupings like that make things line up.

[Mark Levine]

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[Jim Richman]

OK. I understand you do not create files of these exercises. But what are the files of the musical contexts? That surely would deepen the lessons if they were available.
Here is an emotional drum take I did.