Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby ChuckRoche » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:18 pm

I had no idea Sakae was selling their own line of drums:

http://www.sakaedrums.com/english/aboutus/index.html

http://www.drummagazine.com/gear/post/s ... nter-namm/

Have they ceased manufacturing Yamaha's drums, or is this a rumor? Any links, or more information on this?
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Paul Marangoni » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:18 pm

They're still making the Recording Custom and some other stuff I think. But they won't be doing it for too much longer I think.
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Julián Fernández » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:22 pm

Paul Marangoni wrote: Tama built their own factory in China


So did Yamaha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06PhZdC9pr8
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Odd-Arne Oseberg » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:22 am

My Catalinas are made in China. Best value for money ever.
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Paul Marangoni » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:32 am

http://www.chinasucks.net/

http://www.chinasucks.net/chinas-treatment-of-laborers/

U.S. Based Companies Object

In a particularly business-like maneuver, many U.S. based multi-national companies have fought proposed Chinese legislation to protect workers’ rights. They have found China to be far too profitable to be changed by unions and other organized labor movements. Wal-Mart, UPS, Microsoft, Nike, AT&T, Intel, and even Google were among the culprits that actively lobbied against these reforms. Nonetheless, the Chinese government has been reluctant to change much so long as their economy remains robust. Increasing workers’ rights would increase the cost of goods and make them less competitive.

Labor Rights in China Moving Forward

The horizon for Chinese workers does not look good. So long as American big-business and Chinese government officials are controlling the money and the politics, there will be no respite for Chinese workers. China is growing too fast for the Communist party to allow any disruptions. The increase in the Chinese middle class has already made the country less competitive. Chinese treatment of laborers has been poor for many years and it does not look like it will let up anytime soon. Organized Chinese labor is making some inroads, but overall it seems that a glimmer of hope is far in the distance.


http://www.chinasucks.net/animal-cruelty-in-china/

http://www.chinasucks.net/organ-trade-in-china/
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby bored at work » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:01 pm

At the moment, only the new Oak Custom sets are being made in China.

Sakae are still making RC's, MCA's and B's and the old Oak Customs and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Production of the old Oak's will cease to continue in the next fe weeks.

I'm not sure where the PHX's are being made.
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Old Pit Guy » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:07 pm

Paul Marangoni wrote:http://www.chinasucks.net/

http://www.chinasucks.net/chinas-treatment-of-laborers/

U.S. Based Companies Object

In a particularly business-like maneuver, many U.S. based multi-national companies have fought proposed Chinese legislation to protect workers’ rights. They have found China to be far too profitable to be changed by unions and other organized labor movements. Wal-Mart, UPS, Microsoft, Nike, AT&T, Intel, and even Google were among the culprits that actively lobbied against these reforms. Nonetheless, the Chinese government has been reluctant to change much so long as their economy remains robust. Increasing workers’ rights would increase the cost of goods and make them less competitive.

Labor Rights in China Moving Forward

The horizon for Chinese workers does not look good. So long as American big-business and Chinese government officials are controlling the money and the politics, there will be no respite for Chinese workers. China is growing too fast for the Communist party to allow any disruptions. The increase in the Chinese middle class has already made the country less competitive. Chinese treatment of laborers has been poor for many years and it does not look like it will let up anytime soon. Organized Chinese labor is making some inroads, but overall it seems that a glimmer of hope is far in the distance.


http://www.chinasucks.net/animal-cruelty-in-china/

http://www.chinasucks.net/organ-trade-in-china/



The Asian middle-class growth projections are starting. A story Dan Rather did recently tossed some numbers around that I had to check out, and it's true.

For the first time in history, a truly global middle class is emerging. By 2030, it will more than double in size, from 2 billion today to 4.9 billion. Brookings Institution scholar Homi Kharas estimates that the European and American middle classes will shrink from 50 percent of the total to just 22 percent. Rapid growth in China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, and Malaysia will cause Asia’s share of the new middle to more than double from its current 30%. By 2030, Asia will host 64% of the global middle class and account for over 40% of global middle-class consumption.


http://www.reuters.com/middle-class-infographic
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Randy Walker » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:21 am

from what i heard at NAMM, Sakae and Yamaha are no longer in a partnership. maybe one of our Yamaha friends can clarify this to be true or false
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby bored at work » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:11 am

Randy Walker wrote:from what i heard at NAMM, Sakae and Yamaha are no longer in a partnership. maybe one of our Yamaha friends can clarify this to be true or false


Jim Haller (Drumnhands) posted on the DS Forum that this isn't the case.
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Re: Russ Miller leaves Yamaha- Yamaha moving to China?

Postby Joe Nocella » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:51 am

What is the DS forum?

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