Nick Yacyshyn

[Pocketplayer]

No Paul we agree completely. What I tired to say is the playing seen in the clips
here have not changed in 45 years...personality brings a unique stamp to each
performance, and if I was 21, I might not be aware of Ian or John to see how
the playing today offers little new to the game from say the late 60's of Deep Purple
and Zep, Sabbath or...?

These guys absorbed their heroes, and Llan has an interesting video on his influences;
Copeland, Morello, and Bonham. But the drum sound of Illam is VERY Bonham...and we are
back to 1972. His phrasing is VERY Bonham/Paice-like imo...I dug it, but it is really hard
not to hear the past in their playing.

I guess you could say that about most, but in 1970, what were those cats really listening
to that brought about the monumental change? Bonham seemed to be influenced by
Morello and possibly Earl Palmer according to some, but he took it to an entirely unique place.

Benefit of a changing music culture? Right place, right time?

Any time I talk to a kid (18-25)...sorry if that offends...I tell them to listen to Led Zep
I, Black Sabbath, or Deep Purple Machine Head. What really has changed since then?
Rock guitars, pounding drums--intro, verse, verse, chorus, verse, verse, chorus, solo,
chorus, end tune (AABA format) or...

Mars Volta was unique, but it was still rooted in the rock sound of yesterday...and that is
what imo has not really changed in 45 years...the sound of rock.

Well, I think we agree... lol

All that said, the performances of both these guys was really good!

[langmick]

It did sound a lot like don caballero and the fucking champs.