DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby Julián Fernández » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:44 pm

JAjaja, you nailed it, man! Hilarious...
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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby electrizer » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:42 pm

Is silver sealer's role to prevent decay from moisture? Then:

http://youtu.be/uIhE8G0NZkM?t=1m43s
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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby Paul Marangoni » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:48 pm

electrizer wrote:Is silver sealer's role to prevent decay from moisture?


No, the silver paint is on the inside. Most people are pretty sure that it was originally done that way to hide imperfections. :)
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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby Julián Fernández » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:03 pm

First and only snare with SS on the outside... 8-)

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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby gretsch-o-rama » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:40 pm

From a physics/sound standpoint, a rough/unfinished interior will provide a warmer sound and take away a "pinging" that can sometimes be heard.
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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby electrizer » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:09 pm

Cool but what's the actual purpose? I've searched on forums and still couldn't find out. Is it the sound or moisture?
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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby gretsch-o-rama » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:38 am

With Gretsch, the silver sealer was most likely to cover knotty/imperfect inner plies. Although, the perhaps unintended consequence was to keep the interior rough with a gritty metallic paint. Technically speaking, the rough/unfinished inner ply is less sonically reflective, thereby absorbing some of the overtones. i.e. warming up the sound/tone.


And as far as moisture, the bearing edges are where shells are really most vulnerable to moisture. Moisture getting in between the plies is what usually leads to warping/out of round, etc.
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Re: DW purchases Gretsch, Toca, LP, Gibralter

Postby GoAndPractice » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:10 am

gretsch-o-rama wrote:With Gretsch, the silver sealer was most likely to cover knotty/imperfect inner plies. Although, the perhaps unintended consequence was to keep the interior rough with a gritty metallic paint. Technically speaking, the rough/unfinished inner ply is less sonically reflective, thereby absorbing some of the overtones. i.e. warming up the sound/tone.


And as far as moisture, the bearing edges are where shells are really most vulnerable to moisture. Moisture getting in between the plies is what usually leads to warping/out of round, etc.

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gretsch-o-rama has the right answer as far as I know. The texture and shape of the inside of the shell makes a difference in the sound too... not just the dimensions and plies. Ever wondered why your Pearl snares were so pingy? They are finished on the inside and have sharp bearing edges.... Ludwigs sound like Ludwigs because of the re-rings.... Gretsch sounds like gretsch because of the round-over edges and the gray paint. Swap your hoops out and you'll hear another difference.

I think people need to worry less about the name of their drum and learn more about the construction. As far as I'm concerned the "brand" of a drum lies mostly in its image (logo, exterior finshes, etc...) and their customer service.

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