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Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:31 pm
by Pocketplayer

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:59 pm
by beat hit
I think it's fair to say that YYZ's solo on Exit Stage Left wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't for Barriemore Barlow's solo in Tull's Conundrum, a blueprint.

Just an observation on how drummers borrow from one another. Neil made it his own thing but the relation between the two solos is interesting...


Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm
by treeinrock
Great point about Tull's Conundrum. Not just the drum solo, but there are similarities in many of the rhythmical melodies and phrases. Lee, Peart and Lifeson may have had more than a few moments listening to Jethro Tull.

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:59 am
by langmick
Similar kit, who influenced who?

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Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 am
by beat hit
langmick wrote:Similar kit, who influenced who?

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Conundrum vs YYZ? Sequence of event points to Barlow influencing Peart, no? Kit wise? I'm not sure, I'd say the same.

In this 1979 interview, he highly praises Gadd. No mentions of Peart.

Barriemore Barlow - Modern Drummer Magazine
https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/d ... re-barlow/

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:23 pm
by langmick
beat hit wrote:
langmick wrote:Similar kit, who influenced who?

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Conundrum vs YYZ? Sequence of event points to Barlow influencing Peart, no? Kit wise? I'm not sure, I'd say the same.

In this 1979 interview, he highly praises Gadd. No mentions of Peart.

Barriemore Barlow - Modern Drummer Magazine
https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/d ... re-barlow/


First time I heard Conundrum, I thought "Hey, that sounds a helluva lot like the ESL YYZ solo."

Neil had those concert toms going back a few years as well, Caress of Steel in 75. The ATWAS solo is similar to the ESL one.



They do have a similar style and way of going about things.

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:15 am
by beat hit
Neil had those concert toms going back a few years as well, Caress of Steel in 75. The ATWAS solo is similar to the ESL


Good point on the kit itself.

As for Neil potentially influencing Barriemore's playing (as in Conundrum live solo), I just don't see it. 1974 to 1976 Rush was still an opening act in America (for Kiss, etc). Rush's 1st European tour was in 1977 while Barriemore's exposure to the world had already been in motion years before as he played on Tull's Thick As A Brick in 1971.

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:39 pm
by Paul Marangoni
Rush opened for Jethro Tull many times. Neil didn't use concert toms until after those opening slots. Safe to say that Neil took a lot from Barrie. I think many drummers took ideas from Barrie.

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:47 pm
by langmick
Paul Marangoni wrote:Rush opened for Jethro Tull many times. Neil didn't use concert toms until after those opening slots. Safe to say that Neil took a lot from Barrie. I think many drummers took ideas from Barrie.


Interesting, I don't see them hitting with Tull.

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/tourdates.php

No doubt many were influenced by Barrie, he was an innovator and raised the barre. His playing on the Yngwie record is amazing.

Re: Neil Peart

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:32 am
by Paul Marangoni
langmick wrote:Interesting, I don't see them hitting with Tull.


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