Stick Choice and Rebound

[Josiah]

those CDX guys kill the major companies on price. im order up some and see how they do.

[john lamb]

I would think that a back heavy stick with a long taper and a light tip would give you the most rebound. I'm guessing that the light tip construction would minimize the energy lost during the stroke, thus maximizing what comes back out of the drum.

[john lamb]

rebound is the byproduct of technique. the technique of playing relaxed and letting the stick do it's thing. learning to draw the sound out of the drums is entirely about allowing the stick to get off the head as fast as it can - which it does on it's own. you are simply there to catch it as it comes up and divert it to the next task.

I agree with your posts, but wanted to pick a nit here.... rebound is natural. Lack of rebound can the be the result of a specific technique, such as holding on tightly. With no input from our hands, the stick flies back up. I think its an important distinction. ANYwho....

[gretsch-o-rama]

To me, sticks with a short taper "feel" better. Could it be that the added mass at the front causes it to rebound more? or just feel different?

[Henry II]

Recently I've become perhaps unsatisfied with my stick choice in regards to rebound and inertia. For at least a year I've been obsessed with integrating a rebound "approach" into my playing and until now have been unsuccessful. My problems before were that when I felt I was trying to "embrace" the rebound I would lose a little control and feel. (which are vitally important) So, to me, I was trying to find some middle ground between the "Gruber" approach and perhaps VC, who has said in clinics that he uses a lot of rebound.( and doesn't really hold the sticks close to the middle like what Gruber teaches, and I don't know why he teaches that)

What I've discovered is that by letting the weight of the stick sit in my hand(and as a consequence, relax the hands) the stick rebounds quite naturally and reverberates as well. (all the things Gruber talks about) This might seem weird but If I focus on letting the stick feel as heavy as possible, I can notice no difference between embracing rebound and not using rebound. Not only that, but I notice an overall improvement in sound and feel.

One of the consequences of this new found "approach" is that I'm much more aware of what each different stick feels like, how it responds, and how well it rebounds. I've used the Vinnie Colaiuta stick for almost 7 years and what I like a lot about it is that it has a really aggressive sound(from what I've noticed). However, it does not rebound the most for me of the sticks I currently own. What I've found is that a lot of drum corps sticks have a massive amount of rebound(I'm guessing it's the extra mass) and ironically the original Dave Weckl stick has a lot as well. I'm looking forward to going to the drum shop to try out new sticks to see what I can come up with... Anyway, do you have any ideas on what factors make a stick rebound? Length, taper, tip, and diameter? I think I'm looking for a drum set stick that rebounds a lot and I'm not against any brand, wood, type, etc...

Sticks that have a longer taper have more flexibility, a lighter head, and therefore, more rebound. However, a long, thin, taper makes the stick less suitable for hard hitting. If you're not too hard a hitter, you might like the VF American Jazz series sticks. They all have long tapers and lots of rebound.

[gretsch-o-rama]

Recently I've become perhaps unsatisfied with my stick choice in regards to rebound and inertia. For at least a year I've been obsessed with integrating a rebound "approach" into my playing and until now have been unsuccessful. My problems before were that when I felt I was trying to "embrace" the rebound I would lose a little control and feel. (which are vitally important) So, to me, I was trying to find some middle ground between the "Gruber" approach and perhaps VC, who has said in clinics that he uses a lot of rebound.( and doesn't really hold the sticks close to the middle like what Gruber teaches, and I don't know why he teaches that)

What I've discovered is that by letting the weight of the stick sit in my hand(and as a consequence, relax the hands) the stick rebounds quite naturally and reverberates as well. (all the things Gruber talks about) This might seem weird but If I focus on letting the stick feel as heavy as possible, I can notice no difference between embracing rebound and not using rebound. Not only that, but I notice an overall improvement in sound and feel.

One of the consequences of this new found "approach" is that I'm much more aware of what each different stick feels like, how it responds, and how well it rebounds. I've used the Vinnie Colaiuta stick for almost 7 years and what I like a lot about it is that it has a really aggressive sound(from what I've noticed). However, it does not rebound the most for me of the sticks I currently own. What I've found is that a lot of drum corps sticks have a massive amount of rebound(I'm guessing it's the extra mass) and ironically the original Dave Weckl stick has a lot as well. I'm looking forward to going to the drum shop to try out new sticks to see what I can come up with... Anyway, do you have any ideas on what factors make a stick rebound? Length, taper, tip, and diameter? I think I'm looking for a drum set stick that rebounds a lot and I'm not against any brand, wood, type, etc...

Sticks that have a longer taper have more flexibility, a lighter head, and therefore, more rebound. However, a long, thin, taper makes the stick less suitable for hard hitting. If you're not too hard a hitter, you might like the VF American Jazz series sticks. They all have long tapers and lots of rebound.

Yeah, I think this is probably right but a couple of things:1. it feels better to hit harder 2. Feel is of the utmost importance.

[Henry II]

Yeah, I think this is probably right but a couple of things:1. it feels better to hit harder 2. Feel is of the utmost importance.

You could always get the sticks that max your rebound and just break a lot of sticks!

[Josiah]

i dont know the physics of it. but across the board a shorter taper is considered a "faster" stick. check out any stick site and read their descriptions.

larger beads on marching sticks are also considered to be "faster".

[gretsch-o-rama]

those CDX guys kill the major companies on price. im order up some and see how they do.

The only problem so far with CDX, is that it takes two to four weeks for orders, something I didn't notice before I ordered.

[Josiah]

ya order time is long, but i qualify for their higher level endorsement. so if they are good ill prob apply for that for the discount.