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Robert Bluman wrote:Vinnie actually plays that one quite a bit, he also drops both left hand strokes at the end and replaces them with kick. Elvin was playing these licks in the 50s!

yea to me it sounds like elvin did it when playing uptempo ,but he put all the rights on his ride and instead of the bass drum he used his hi hat

rlrrlHrlH the last 3 notes go over the bar

Very nice vid! Thanks for sharing...
Are those Sonors?!

Miki C. wrote:

Robert Bluman wrote:Vinnie actually plays that one quite a bit, he also drops both left hand strokes at the end and replaces them with kick. Elvin was playing these licks in the 50s!

yea to me it sounds like elvin did it when playing uptempo ,but he put all the rights on his ride and instead of the bass drum he used his hi hat

rlrrlHrlH the last 3 notes go over the bar

Natural progression from right hand leading ride pattern?

Gotta love the Elvin

nice. best vid I"ve seen in a while. needs to be more sharing of licks like this.

chris perra wrote:The Paradiddle diddle lick was designed for folks with weak left hands haha,, and slow feet,,.. None of these foot doubles or LL's haha
I've always had trouble with things like your version and Gadd's Ratamacue thing..

RlrrlK is the lazy mans way to sound impressive haha...


Loved that fill Cliff did though...

Greatest. HoD. Post. Ever. Full of honesty and humility. I love it.

And I'm not just saying that because I've had 3 pints of Kilt Lifter.

Wait ... isn't this weekend chatty?

Those are Taye Originals.... and a snare from a local builder in Toronto "Groove Factor" made from lake superior birch...

chris perra wrote:The Paradiddle diddle lick was designed for folks with weak left hands haha,, and slow feet,,.. None of these foot doubles or LL's haha
I've always had trouble with things like your version and Gadd's Ratamacue thing..

RlrrlK is the lazy mans way to sound impressive haha...


Loved that fill Cliff did though...

Hah- you're being way too self-deprecating. First, I think I have actually experimented with the paradiddle way briefly but found it difficult because I was SO used to the LL way. So it's probably also a matter of habit. I think both have two slightly different but equally cool sounding things to offer.

Also, I'd put the Gadd Ratamacue thing in a totally different category because I'm still trying to get that to sound smooth.

Second, your playing sounded great, and I found it amusing when you said you prefer it slower, because when you did it at hyper speed I was like "actually, that sounds sick" haha.

Nice Chris!
A classic lick well explained, well executed and good sounding!

I also like to play it as a little variation inside a ghosted half-time shuffle groove; or as a cheat fast version of it.

Sticking: RLRRLB

Orchestration:
HshhsB SshhsB
B
(hat+kick on downbeat; right hand on backbeat)

Key:
H: Accented hi-hat
h: Ghosted hi-hat
S: Accented snare
s: Ghosted snare
B: Bass-drum

Does that makes sense?

Wow Chris, THAT was nicely done sir!! Thanks a million for sharing... very well explained... Agreed on the sound too... Love it.

after watching your video i tried putting a dab of moongel on my toms but unfortunatly they sound nothing like yours