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sjj123 wrote:On the acoustic vid Juan put up....what is it that Dave is doing from 4:22-4:30...to make the snare notes so continuous and fluid....is it paradiddles?

To risk paraphrasing Dave, don't think about the sticking so much as you think about the accent pattern.

That said, it sounds/looks like paradiddle-diddle style phrasing ... although in triplets at that tempo it's tough to tell the difference between a paradiddle-diddle and a 5-stroke roll.

thanks Lucas...

Not recent and I dont think it's buried in this thread...wew...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DodLJhl9V38[/youtube]

sjj123 wrote:On the acoustic vid Juan put up....what is it that Dave is doing from 4:22-4:30...to make the snare notes so continuous and fluid....is it paradiddles?

It's a mix of 5 and 6 stroke rolls over (mostly) 16th note triplets.
Take Ted Reed page 38. Accent the figures over 8th note triplets. Get good at it.
Now play a clean double stroke instead of a single on all non-accented notes.

Write out a bar or two of this to help pinpoint visually where exactly the notes fall in relation to the quarter note.

Viola!
Maybe I'll make this my next vid topic.

please do Steve...to me it's wicked stuff....

Someone posted this, from a direct mixer sound (Mike Stern Band 2008)
And what a sound !!
Incredible solo.
(That photo of the video is mine by the way, taken in the same year in Spain, when I met Dave´s drum tech Lucas Ives)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FQ3CUpYpiE[/youtube]

Steve Holmes wrote:

sjj123 wrote:On the acoustic vid Juan put up....what is it that Dave is doing from 4:22-4:30...to make the snare notes so continuous and fluid....is it paradiddles?

It's a mix of 5 and 6 stroke rolls over (mostly) 16th note triplets.
Take Ted Reed page 38. Accent the figures over 8th note triplets. Get good at it.
Now play a clean double stroke instead of a single on all non-accented notes.

Write out a bar or two of this to help pinpoint visually where exactly the notes fall in relation to the quarter note.

Viola!
Maybe I'll make this my next vid topic.

That's something I recall Ed Soph talking about a gazillion years ago. If you can visualize it without writing it out it actually helps your reading chops.

Interview starts around 30 minutes in:
http://drumsmack.com/dave-weckl-greg-cr ... aha-drums/

Steve Holmes wrote:

sjj123 wrote:On the acoustic vid Juan put up....what is it that Dave is doing from 4:22-4:30...to make the snare notes so continuous and fluid....is it paradiddles?

It's a mix of 5 and 6 stroke rolls over (mostly) 16th note triplets.
Take Ted Reed page 38. Accent the figures over 8th note triplets. Get good at it.
Now play a clean double stroke instead of a single on all non-accented notes.

Write out a bar or two of this to help pinpoint visually where exactly the notes fall in relation to the quarter note.

Viola!
Maybe I'll make this my next vid topic.

The outfits never cease to shock me. Maybe they did it for tax deductions?

Steve Holmes wrote:Interview starts around 30 minutes in:
http://drumsmack.com/dave-weckl-greg-cr ... aha-drums/

Was wondering what happened to the pledge thingy...appreciate his honesty that is was more work than planned.
Looking forward to this in March perhaps