Tony Williams Discography

[DSOP]

Which reminds me that Tony is on Carlos' "Swing of Delight" album along with Wayne and Herbie. It's not just Tony, Graham Lear is on some tracks and maybe others, too.

[matthughen]

I found one: Carols Santana - Swing of Delight [edit] found another Hal Galper's Now Hear This

I appreciate any and all input.
TIA

Got that one on the first post, guys. Thanks for the for effort and intent.

[deseipel]

I earn money.
The money affords me the privilege to go sky-diving.
Therefore I have earned the privilege to go sky-diving.

No. You've earned money, potential to pay for a sky diving session. The "privilege to sky dive" -- if we're going to keep using this odd analogy -- is to be conferred by the sky diving company which decides whether what you're offering is sufficient to cover their service, if you're healthy enough for sky diving, etc.

There are people who would claim literature, food, or visual art to be as important to our humanity as you find music to be. Applying your rationale to things I arbitrarily declare "magical," it follows I shouldn't have to compensate anyone for any product as long as I care deeply about its cultural importance.

I'd agree here, you haven't earned any privilege, you've paid what you're OBLIGATED to pay in order to say that it was a privilege.

I'd also agree with the 2nd point here: The Free Music movement seems to think that by elevating ALL music to some sort of cultural significance, that in it of itself is enough reason to say that it shouldnt be burdened by having to pay for it. Thats' just BS, sorry. There are definately some works that everyone should hear, yes. But deciding what music should be available for free to the masses isn't something that should be decided by people who simply don't want to pay for anything!

Being culturally enriched isn't a process that lies in a vacuum or its not something that you can just download for free. It takes work and it should take work. If it were all free for the taking, then it would probably mean less to people. The free distribution of art/music/culture doesn't equate to a society that is more culturally enriched. The Internet is the best example of this.

Someone mentioned that every musician should have the access to music, aside from economic status. Why? Having access to it doesn't equate to using it. Sure it would be great, but the arguement that it should be free cuz its culturally significant is weak. Not all culture is significant. Therefore, there's not really an arguement for it to be free.

[matthughen]

I submitted the track listing to DIME and to The Traders Den. DIME did not respond but TTD approved it with a little more work on the lineage of each clip. I will complete that and UL the 2&1/2 hour DVD to TTD which, unlike DIME, has no limit on joining up. That means anyone here can grab it. Unfortunately I have to leave town from wed-sun and wont be able to finish up until next week. I will post the address here when its up.

[Jim Richman]

I submitted the track listing to DIME and to The Traders Den. DIME did not respond but TTD approved it with a little more work on the lineage of each clip. I will complete that and UL the 2&1/2 hour DVD to TTD which, unlike DIME, has no limit on joining up. That means anyone here can grab it. Unfortunately I have to leave town from wed-sun and wont be able to finish up until next week. I will post the address here when its up.

I don't understand. Are you loading all these albums so people can download them for free? You live in the USA?

[matthughen]

I don't understand. Are you loading all these albums so people can download them for free? You live in the USA?

Nope. the discography portion should not be confused with the track listing. The discog pages contain a list of currently available CDs that can be purchased at places like amazon.com etc. The track listing is the actual video content of the DVD. The video content is comprised of material that is not available for purchase from legitimate sources. For instance, the only legit video currently available with Tony Williams is "One Night Live":
http://www.amazon.com/One-Night-Blue-No ... -1-catcorr
none of this video is contained in my DVD.

[YamahaPlayer]

There are people who would claim literature, food, or visual art to be as important to our humanity as you find music to be. Applying your rationale to things I arbitrarily declare "magical," it follows I shouldn't have to compensate anyone for any product as long as I care deeply about its cultural importance.

Someone mentioned that every musician should have the access to music, aside from economic status. Why? Having access to it doesn't equate to using it. Sure it would be great, but the arguement that it should be free cuz its culturally significant is weak. Not all culture is significant. Therefore, there's not really an arguement for it to be free.

OK, then. One simple question.


Explain the difference between Fictional Books* and Music, and why Fictional Writing should be available in MASS (truly almost every book ever written) for free(actually socially paid for) and Music should not be?

*Fictional Books, Poems, Plays, Writings, Essays, etc...

[Lucas Ives]

Remind me which avenue you're using to receive these books en masse? (We've already covered libraries in the other thread: fixed number of copies, late fees, duplication restrictions.)

[YamahaPlayer]

Any and all. I can think of 5 different avenue's where by the general public has access to fiction writing, unlimited.

If you're argument is merely the limitations of books availability being the reason why they should be free - that's pretty asinine. A minor issue and does not touch on the REASON why we provide the service.

By the way, concerning Fiction Writing, I have NEVER in my life not been able to get a book I wanted from a library, not once. The only issue that has ever come up, is it having to be shipped from another library.

So again, why should Fictional Writing be made available, and not Music?


Or in another version, why do we as a society believe that all people should have free and for most practicalities, unlimited, access to Fictional Writing and not Music?

Is fiction any more important then music? Is music somehow of less importance then writing?

[willyz]

I think in the grand scheme of things, as a society, having "free" access to (as an example) Shakespeare's work may be a little more crucial than Tony William's discography...

That is unless your view of society are nerdy drum-forums.