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Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:16 pm
by chris perra
Clint Hopkins wrote:Steve, I'm curious, what are the rough dimensions of the blue room? I have my kit set up in a bedroom that's quite long,( probably 15' long) but has a low (8') ceiling. I have another bedroom that's probably half that size or less but the ceiling is about 14' and want to know which is better for recording.
The ceiling height and or wall length are equal in importance.. A flat surface is the same if it's above you or beside you..

The best sounding room would be the one that has the farthest distance from the walls or ceiling to the drums overall.

My room has a 6 foot ceiling.. it was just floor joices and the floor from the main floor of my house.. I Insulated the whole ceiling and covered it with fabric.. My room is dead sounding because of it..

Regardless of the room size.. For the best recording vibe, you'll want to treat some surfaces..A good starting point is 40 to 50% coverage.. More if the room is smaller, less if the room is larger and depending on what the surfaces are made of..

Any instrument recording is the combination of the source sound and a reflection off the walls. So bigger rooms are better as the sound bouncing off of walls that are farther away have less energy and don't make it back to the mic with as much strength as walls or ceiling that are closer..

Rooms that are engineered for great sound are designed to have the optimum mix of the source and reflections off the walls.. Plus angled walls or bass traps to reduce standing waves.. Which are frequencies that start from the source bounce off the walls,.. and if the room is too small hit each other and cancel each other out. Typically they occur in the low end.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:37 pm
by Steve Holmes
Welp, just signed the lease for the new room. It's a hair smaller, but the ceiling is definitely higher, might sound better in terms of recording. Also, it's cleaner. Looks like this:

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Going to pack up gear and move now. That's gonna suck. I'll taker a pic of the new room at some point.

Thanks again for pitching in guys, HoD for the win.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:02 pm
by Steve Holmes
PS after I signed the lease the guy is like "Oh here is the WiFi password....".

and I'm like....

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Win.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:49 pm
by deseipel
u guys are so lucky to have rooms like these to rent.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:11 pm
by Clint Hopkins
chris perra wrote:
Clint Hopkins wrote:Steve, I'm curious, what are the rough dimensions of the blue room? I have my kit set up in a bedroom that's quite long,( probably 15' long) but has a low (8') ceiling. I have another bedroom that's probably half that size or less but the ceiling is about 14' and want to know which is better for recording.
The ceiling height and or wall length are equal in importance.. A flat surface is the same if it's above you or beside you..

The best sounding room would be the one that has the farthest distance from the walls or ceiling to the drums overall.

My room has a 6 foot ceiling.. it was just floor joices and the floor from the main floor of my house.. I Insulated the whole ceiling and covered it with fabric.. My room is dead sounding because of it..

Regardless of the room size.. For the best recording vibe, you'll want to treat some surfaces..A good starting point is 40 to 50% coverage.. More if the room is smaller, less if the room is larger and depending on what the surfaces are made of..

Any instrument recording is the combination of the source sound and a reflection off the walls. So bigger rooms are better as the sound bouncing off of walls that are farther away have less energy and don't make it back to the mic with as much strength as walls or ceiling that are closer..

Rooms that are engineered for great sound are designed to have the optimum mix of the source and reflections off the walls.. Plus angled walls or bass traps to reduce standing waves.. Which are frequencies that start from the source bounce off the walls,.. and if the room is too small hit each other and cancel each other out. Typically they occur in the low end.
Chris,
Thanks for that whole explanation. Makes total sense.

Steve,
That place looks incredible! Looking forward to hearing you in the new room.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:11 pm
by DSOP
deseipel wrote:u guys are so lucky to have rooms like these to rent.
You think? The rent on these rooms is more than what it would cost to rent a house in most cities. Yet even with the prices being high, it's almost impossible to find one available to rent.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:19 pm
by Steve Holmes
Holy shit you guys look how fucking high this ceiling is. The drums sound H U G E in here!!!111

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Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:13 pm
by Christopher
Steve Holmes wrote:Holy shit you guys look how fucking high this ceiling is. The drums sound H U G E in here!!!111
Nice....

Room for them to breathe.

Can't wait to hear the Holmes/PHX goodness from that space!

:)

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:54 pm
by Josiah
That is a friggin awesome shed space! Must be a 16' ceiling at least!

24/7 lockouts here go for $1/sq ft/month.

Re: Let's talk (budget) home recording setups!

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:07 am
by Juan Expósito
You are going to get fun, for sure.
Just an idea for your SOUND CHECK VIDEO PART 2:
Jou could include in the video a fragment of what each individual mic captures, without EQ treatment.
This is: only BD, then just SD.....then only overheads...etc.
It would be instructive and interesting....

That mic pack that you are using is really cheap, and great sounding !!