Different takes...

[JohnDrum]

what a lame ass topic

mmmm.
So:
One is a seminal drum performance by a master drummer at what is arguably one of the most discussed events in the drum world, honouring one who is widely acknowledged as 'the best', and certainly a huge influence on drumming as we know it today...

the other is a current performance by a drummer, who whilst having no small amount of technical prowess, seems to have absolutely no sensitivity or respect for the same arrangement as performed by the same band, and at a 'tribute' concert organised by the legend's own daughter, who purports to be keeping his legacy alive....

The contrast struck me as worthy of at least bringing the subject to the community's attention, especially as the original treatment of this by Steve Gadd absolutely electrified me(and others) with its sheer taste - a master class in subtlety and restraint - when it first came out...

sorry if it didn't engage your interest.

[samnmax203]

@JohnDrum- Thanks for posting this. It's always increbily interesting to see how different people interpret songs, but it's also interesting to see how the subtleties of a master like Gadd stand out so much when compared to someone who just pounds away at a track.

It's almost as if we're watching Gadd eat sushi with chopsticks while Potter is using a Backhoe for the same thing

[circh bustom]

Greg has been in and out of MD for years. I just dont get it. I cant listen to him at all, nor can I watch when he has his cymbals in the doosh position and swings his arms like an idiot. At least the "drummer on the wrong gig" had great time and feel. Does this guy get hired because of his hair? His sound is bad no matter what kit Ive heard and his feel, well, Id probably get in trouble if I spoke truthfully about that hahaha.

[Christopher]

If she was going to give a metal guy the gig, why not give her own son a crack at it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klHw0yGH9s

[amoergosum]

If she was going to give a metal guy the gig, why not give her own son a crack at it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klHw0yGH9s

>>>
http://www.endlessvideo.com/watch?v=2kl ... &end=2m48s

[dccollins]

[sejuba]

what a lame ass topic

mmmm.
So:
One is a seminal drum performance by a master drummer at what is arguably one of the most discussed events in the drum world, honouring one who is widely acknowledged as 'the best', and certainly a huge influence on drumming as we know it today...

the other is a current performance by a drummer, who whilst having no small amount of technical prowess, seems to have absolutely no sensitivity or respect for the same arrangement as performed by the same band, and at a 'tribute' concert organised by the legend's own daughter, who purports to be keeping his legacy alive....

The contrast struck me as worthy of at least bringing the subject to the community's attention, especially as the original treatment of this by Steve Gadd absolutely electrified me(and others) with its sheer taste - a master class in subtlety and restraint - when it first came out...

sorry if it didn't engage your interest.

what do you gain from bashing on other people ? Cuz to me, that's essentially what you're doing with your topic - expressing contempt and derision. For the sake of just being naive, what would you feel like
if the drummer whom you're ridiculing was actually giving his best ?Blame his daughter for not picking the drummers you feel are best suited for the gig. We can talk Steve Gadd all day long and that would be a pleasure but If you wanna make threads comparing him to other drummers at least do so with "subtlety and restraint" .

Cheers buddy !

[Gaddabout]

Blame his daughter for not picking the drummers you feel are best suited for the gig.

On it!

[JohnDrum]

what do you gain from bashing on other people ? Cuz to me, that's essentially what you're doing with your topic - expressing contempt and derision. For the sake of just being naive, what would you feel like
if the drummer whom you're ridiculing was actually giving his best ?Blame his daughter for not picking the drummers you feel are best suited for the gig. We can talk Steve Gadd all day long and that would be a pleasure but If you wanna make threads comparing him to other drummers at least do so with "subtlety and restraint" .

Cheers buddy ![/quote]

Thanks for expanding on your original, fairly succinct comment. It's good to hear you were annoyed at what you perceived as my bashing on another drummer -in my 56 years of drumming I have never 'bashed on' ,denigrated or insulted another drummer (or any musician for that matter).

My motivation in posting, as I wrote, was merely to bring to this community's notice the existence of a current 'tribute' which seemed to me so far removed from the original purpose of the concerts, that I was interested in others' reactions: to see if it was merely my view that this bloke, as technically proficient as he is, and as commercially successful as he is -( FFS, he makes a living playing drums...I only managed this for 9 years in the 70s) - had missed the point of a big band based setting.

From some of the comments -some openly critical, some as bemused as I was - it is obvious that's it's not just me, so I feel posting this was worth it.

Again, sorry if you feel I was 'dissing' Greg, as you youngsters say...far from it.

[Josiah]

in my 56 years of drumming I have never 'bashed on' ,denigrated or insulted another drummer (or any musician for that matter).

Woa. I'm in my 25th year of playing drums... that's impressive John! (PS "diss" went out about 15 years ago)


On the topic, my guess is that there was a balance to be struck between which drummers to play the event (the best swing cats) VS which drummers will bring the most attention to the event (not necessarily the swinging-est, but far more popular)

These kind of events require a particular level of attention to make them feasible. I've never heard of that guy, but it appears he's very popular across the pond. It was most likely that PR prevailed over perhaps what we'd call the most "musically appropriate" drummer choices.