Sonor Beech Infinite

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Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby adrummer10 » Mon May 09, 2011 12:03 pm

Hi!
I'm interested in buying a new kit and new Sonor limited edition - Beech Infinite are really attracting me! Just want ask if anybody played them or even heard them? I would like to know, if there is something different (particulary sound quality) from also new Ascent series? Somebody told me, that Beech Infinite is made from same Beech wood as SQ2 but have no chance to try them...
Looking forward for some suggestion, opinions and ideas.
P.S. Sorry guys for my English :oops:
Thanks a lot!
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby jean krupa » Mon May 09, 2011 12:17 pm

New Sonors are over-thought, over-tooled, over-engineered.

Sonor could be the best manufactured drum available.

Skip the newer models .... 2000 A.D.

Find a set of Tearz or Phonics which are made of 6 and 9
ply German Beech wood, respectively.

Avoid Sigs, too heavy for practical purposes.
Consider lites and delites, but you cannot go wrong
with the 60s Tearz.
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby gretsch-o-rama » Mon May 09, 2011 5:03 pm

I have to say I love the sound of the Sonor drums so much so that I've been thinking about buying my fourth drumset. The Force 3007 maple's are cheap cheap, cheap and look to be a great deal of course you'd prolly have to put new heads on...
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby Gaddabout » Mon May 09, 2011 6:33 pm

The only kit I ever owned that was heavier than my DWs was the 80s Sonor Phonics. Pretty sure those are the drums that started my back problems. They sounded awesome though. On the flip side, before the Phonics I grossly overpaid (retail!) for a Sonor Performer kit that was not even a real Sonor. 13" tom was out of round, none of the heads ever seated properly. Worst. Kit. Ever. Can't believe Sonor allowed their name (and mean-spirited mark-up pricing) be attached to that piece of trash.

Back on topic ...

If you've seen and liked the sound of the beech, run with it. Don't hesitate. Sonor hardware is top notch. They make great drums.
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby Ghostnoter » Mon May 16, 2011 9:40 am

jean krupa wrote:New Sonors are over-thought, over-tooled, over-engineered.

Sonor could be the best manufactured drum available.

Skip the newer models .... 2000 A.D.

Find a set of Tearz or Phonics which are made of 6 and 9
ply German Beech wood, respectively.

Avoid Sigs, too heavy for practical purposes.
Consider lites and delites, but you cannot go wrong
with the 60s Tearz.


When I 1st saw the post, going on about how "Sonors were over-etc.", I gasped! Then seeing it was Jean K. I would pretty much agree with him. Sonor, he knows. I wouldn't necessarily worry so much about their gear after, in my case the Designer series. Anyway, unless you want Beech shells, I am sure there are other manufactures using it, I haven't kept abreast. I'd probably go for them, unless you are patient and find the older beech drums they made. As far as wgt...? I wonder if it was solely the drums or bad 'technique' in lifting? Believe me, I sympathize about the wgt! I got rid of my 18x22 designer bd and opted for a 16x18 bd. Much manageable. I'd opt for a 20" or smaller bd, if I were buying new drums overall. Thats just me.
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby Basho » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:55 am

...bump...

I too am interested in the Sonor Ascent series and am curious if anyone's had a chance to play these?

I've not found much in the way of web reviews on these either, a bit worrisome given how long these have been on the market.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby Josiah » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:27 pm

play them and see. never order a kit blind.

I have two beech kits (Yamaha Beech Customs) and love them, they get comments all the time from FOH and otherwise. havent seen the Sonor versions and its a shame Yamaha discontinued, making them the last manufacture of beech drums I believe.

Sonor makes great drums, pricey but well done.
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby StudioTan » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:15 am

Hi guys,

First post here. Just a brief history... I have about twenty years experience in drumming and recording engineering but haven't played in over ten years. Just started getting back into it and am having a blast! I did a total 180 about ten years ago and went back to school to get a "life" (whatever that is), but am happy to do this as a hobby now (I hate that word though because it's never really a hobby for me, per se). Some old musician friends from yesteryear are already hitting me up to do jam sessions. Looks like I have a lot of practicing to do! 8-)

Anyways, I'm posting here because I took a chance on this Beech Infinite set sight-unseen and have had it for a couple of weeks. This is my first Sonor kit and am totally happy with my decision to get it. I've always lusted for a Sonor kit but never purchased until now. I've only owned three kits (including this one) but have played/recorded many in the studio. My last kit was a Yamaha Recording Custom 7-piece set, and it sounded a lot different than these. The Yamaha had birch shells, and of course the sound difference was due to a lot of other variables.

The main difference in sound is that the Sonors have a bigger, boomier, more "colorful" sound. By colorful, I mean covering a wider range of frequencies and not being quite as focused. However, the toms, for example, still have a relatively defined pitch and have that Sonor sound. By Sonor sound, I mean being similar to some of those 80's Journey records; I can hear some of that going on that I don't hear in other drums. Someone in another thread mentioned that Beech has a dry sound to it. I don't think I agree with that; I guess it depends on your definition of "dry". I would call the Yamahas much more dry than these Sonors. By the way, I've actually played that Steve Smith sunburst kit he used during that era; it was on display at Creative Drum Shop in Scottsdale, Az right around 1984. Those had that sound I'm speaking of as well.

I still will need to spend quite a long time learning the best type of tuning for these drums, but that's a given for me for any set. Being that the toms are shallower than my other kits, along with possibly shell design/construction, they do seem to favor a different technique than what I'm used to. As others have mentioned, I was skeptical about the kick drum depth, being that it is 20" deep. However, after the first few hits I am a believer. It's not "sluggish," "thin," "shallow," etc. It responds very nicely and sounds like a cannon at the same time, if you like that sort of thing. It does seem to sustain more than most other kicks I've played, but I don't find that a hinderance at all because it still has tons of punch at the same time.

The snare has a sound to it I'm not used to, even though it is full-bodied sound and has a nice crack to it, with good sensitivity/response. I've never played in my current room and I'm noticing it's extremely bright, so that's going to play a large part in the snare's sound. The last snare I owned was a custom Noble & Cooley and that sounded completely different. I still really need to experiment more with this snare, but I believe it's going to be versitile depending on heads, possibly different rims, and wires.

Some other facts I learned about this set:

The shells are made from German Beech wood, but it's not the exact same Beech used in their other kits, including the SQ2 series. It's most likely the same species/wood, but it's sourced from a different place, although still grown in Germany. This makes these shells more unique.

I haven't played the Ascent series, but the Beech wood used for the shells are not grown in Germany, so in my mind it's a completely different wood. If you compare pics around the Internet of the inner shells and bearing edges, you'll see the wood looks completely different. The grain and color varies a lot more on the Ascent series. This probably has more to do with the grade of wood used, however. The uniformity of the shells on the Infinite kit are much more even. Of course, the shells on the Ascent are thicker as well. All of these attributes are going to produce a different sounding kit. This sound may actually suit you better.

As for the Infinite kit, I appreciate the attention to detail put into it. From the bearing edges to the finish, everything is flawless. IMO the hardware is not over-engineered. I believe there's a good balance of flexibility, sturdiness, asthetics, and ingenuity in the design.
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby DSOP » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:03 pm

StudioTan wrote:I took a chance on this Beech Infinite set sight-unseen and have had it for a couple of weeks. This is my first Sonor kit and am totally happy with my decision to get it. I've always lusted for a Sonor kit but never purchased until now.


Still digging the Sonors?
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Re: Sonor Beech Infinite

Postby Julián Fernández » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:02 pm

Guido Bertini with his Beech Infinite...



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