Big Weckl announcement?

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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby AllenS » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:49 pm

Rodge wrote:Guys, with Allan the next level has been done already... ;-)


Well sure, but there's only ONE Vince...:D
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby Steve Holmes » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:50 pm

I'm glad the project is still going, looks like Dave and Jay should hit the mark within the time window now.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby Gaddabout » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:19 pm

Steve Holmes wrote:I'm glad the project is still going, looks like Dave and Jay should hit the mark within the time window now.


This. I'm a fanboy and I've even purchases shoes that Weckl endorsed.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby Julián Fernández » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:55 pm

Matthijs Ament wrote:I don't mean to judge and I fully understand the need to try new things to get a CD or DVD out. This whole thing is a learning process as well. To me Dave is an artist, because he creates 'art'. He has a brilliant musical mind and he is a true master of the instrument. So, I listen to him. To what he has to say and to the stuff he comes up with. He is way beyond me and way beyond most musicians. What is happening now is like going to the greatest restaurant in the world and telling the chef what to cook...why? That chef can come up with stuff you would not be able to imagine yourself. That is why you go to such a restaurant. If he is playing 'what the fans want' it becomes entertainment...not art. He is able, and he should be leading the way. Pushing the envelope. Not asking for directions, if you catch my drift. I've had the pleasure of meeting Dave. It was genuine friendliness and I would feel really weird if I was paying to have dinner with him. The man is so awesome. If you have that kind of money, just invest in the project I'd say. That is another thing with this pledge stuff, that endless list of things you can buy. Like 'spent $12.000,- and join Dave as he is walking his dog'. It's silly to me. But there is this line I remember from my last visit to LA. Sheila E. put it this way, 'we Americans live by the rule "make money at all costs." To each his own :)


I gotta disagree... Sometimes you ask someone ´cause your looking for inspiration. Dave is not gonna do what the small audience dictates... I guess he´s trying to keep it fresh and keep the fans somehow involved.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby amoergosum » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:51 am

...remember the guys from Pomplamoose? Nataly Dawn raised $104,788 ($20,000 was the goal, 2,315 backers) for the recording of her first solo album via kickstarter last year. They built their fan base via YouTube though so that made it easier.



Matt Chamberlain on drums >>>

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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby Gaddabout » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:25 am

Got the week off so I've been indulging all my old Weckl albums. All of them. I've decidedly leaned towards the Access Denied go-for-it rockin' fusion vs. the Masterplan era. In fact, Access Denied was a great sound and a fun song that was still definitively Weckl Band. So ... someone make that happen. ;)

Hard Wired and Rhythm of the Soul were pretty strong efforts. I hadn't forgotten about that. I think I tuned out on the standards (Chicken) and the really weird Latin pieces (Tiempo, etc.) where Dave went into the "I have to hit every accessory item to my left with random abandon during these sections of the song" mode. Take those away and their stuff was surprisingly hip compared to how I remembered it. I have mixed emotions about songs liked 'Tower of Inspiration' and 'Tower '99.' Ditch the horn samples and get a real horn section! But the revision of that song kicked booty, and Dave grooved his ass off on that one.

My very basic conclusion was I had forgotten how fun it was to listen to a drummer album where he just ... played. No pretense, no attempt to dumb down the playing to make more commercial music. I have to support someone like that because no one else is doing it. And there's no one better at it in our generation that Weck.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby AllenS » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:51 pm

Gaddabout wrote:Got the week off so I've been indulging all my old Weckl albums. All of them. I've decidedly leaned towards the Access Denied go-for-it rockin' fusion vs. the Masterplan era. In fact, Access Denied was a great sound and a fun song that was still definitively Weckl Band. So ... someone make that happen. ;)

Hard Wired and Rhythm of the Soul were pretty strong efforts. I hadn't forgotten about that. I think I tuned out on the standards (Chicken) and the really weird Latin pieces (Tiempo, etc.) where Dave went into the "I have to hit every accessory item to my left with random abandon during these sections of the song" mode. Take those away and their stuff was surprisingly hip compared to how I remembered it. I have mixed emotions about songs liked 'Tower of Inspiration' and 'Tower '99.' Ditch the horn samples and get a real horn section! But the revision of that song kicked booty, and Dave grooved his ass off on that one.

My very basic conclusion was I had forgotten how fun it was to listen to a drummer album where he just ... played. No pretense, no attempt to dumb down the playing to make more commercial music. I have to support someone like that because no one else is doing it. And there's no one better at it in our generation that Weck.


Well said, Matt. I agree with you especially about the no pretense aspect of Weckl's playing.

Was listening to some old Deep Purple songs today....Ian Paice recorded some great work with them. Busy, jazzy, with lots of fills and snare drags/ghost notes. Probably couldn't get away with half of that in today's environment.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby Kurtis » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:56 pm

i don't think Dave was hitting those djembe's with random patterns Matt. I know what you mean man. it was a tad over the top. it was a phase of his. it was pretty cool at the time. It was a tad silly to put in the credits that he did all of the drums and percussion in one pass with no over dubs. He's always pushing himself and that's a great thing.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby Avi_drums » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:21 pm

Gaddabout wrote:My very basic conclusion was I had forgotten how fun it was to listen to a drummer album where he just ... played. No pretense, no attempt to dumb down the playing to make more commercial music. I have to support someone like that because no one else is doing it. And there's no one better at it in our generation that Weck.


Weckl is not the only drummer doing it. More importantly, the music has to connect, and clearly it hasn't for a lot of people.
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Re: Big Weckl announcement?

Postby AllenS » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:48 pm

I've been listening to some old Mike Stern stuff today with the Weckmeister. Some of my favorite Weckl is with Stern, whose music certainly connects with me.

YMMV.

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